Aug 11 18:34:30 --> wowi has joined #creativity Aug 11 18:34:44 what about finn/clare/and/allan Aug 11 18:35:00 i emailed them Aug 11 18:35:20 cool Aug 11 18:36:52 --> claremarie has joined #creativity Aug 11 18:37:01 hia claremarie Aug 11 18:37:09 hi Aug 11 18:37:13 finally made it Aug 11 18:38:12 still want to talk doco stuff? Aug 11 18:38:15 sorry i'm so late Aug 11 18:38:44 yep. is finn coming? Aug 11 18:39:00 yeah, i think so Aug 11 18:39:31 the irc/wiki server is down, so, yeah, will have to add a summary later Aug 11 18:39:40 and come up with an agenda now Aug 11 18:40:58 do you remember what was on the agenda already? Aug 11 18:41:20 --> shayne has joined #creativity Aug 11 18:41:27 hey Aug 11 18:41:42 created #Oceania and emailed oceania list telling folks to get in that belly. Aug 11 18:42:03 ok Aug 11 18:42:47 --> finn has joined #creativity Aug 11 18:43:24 hia finn Aug 11 18:43:29 hi Aug 11 18:43:39 * finn now has the nz flu Aug 11 18:43:46 not sure if i can hang around long Aug 11 18:43:47 :( Aug 11 18:43:51 bed calls Aug 11 18:43:55 ok Aug 11 18:44:08 lets get started then Aug 11 18:44:30 ok. agenda Aug 11 18:44:34 tis a great pity the wiki is down Aug 11 18:44:42 thats were all our notes are :( Aug 11 18:44:50 its on the same server as irc :( Aug 11 18:45:24 agenda: footage, interviews we still want to get, round up of whta we have already Aug 11 18:46:15 aims (i didn't actually transfer that from my notes to the wiki, cos it was basically'incite people to do illegal things') Aug 11 18:46:40 :) Aug 11 18:47:43 um, allan & filming stuuf in melb. Aug 11 18:48:07 yep Aug 11 18:48:11 *wowi* mal said things Aug 11 18:49:04 also, communication. do we need an email list ? Aug 11 18:49:27 heh, i was just typing that :) Aug 11 18:49:59 logistics Aug 11 18:50:09 i think that is a good start for an agenda Aug 11 18:50:25 hey finn clare Aug 11 18:50:35 hey wowi Aug 11 18:51:12 finn: can i give bowo from imc-jakarta your email? he needs tech help... we're you doing that? Aug 11 18:51:15 ok. easy stuff: mailing list or no mailing list? Aug 11 18:51:21 how's it goin guys :) Aug 11 18:51:29 mailing list Aug 11 18:51:29 yes mailing list Aug 11 18:51:37 wowi: good :) Aug 11 18:51:49 great! Aug 11 18:51:49 ok. name, and where - cat/perthimc/lists.indy Aug 11 18:52:09 which ever is easiest and more stable Aug 11 18:52:54 urbanart@..... ? Aug 11 18:52:58 yeh Aug 11 18:53:03 at perth Aug 11 18:53:06 hmm. urbanart lists perthimc asn au Aug 11 18:53:08 for a change Aug 11 18:53:09 ok Aug 11 18:53:13 will do now Aug 11 18:53:31 cool Aug 11 18:53:33 thanks Aug 11 18:53:54 who wants to admin? Aug 11 18:54:40 damn list admin. think there will much to deal with? Aug 11 18:55:17 nope Aug 11 18:55:18 i guess i won't be adminning brisbane one for too much longer, so could do this one also Aug 11 18:55:34 anyone else? Aug 11 18:55:35 password is civilian101 - we can all do it Aug 11 18:56:06 i can too Aug 11 18:56:11 cool Aug 11 18:56:15 all of us :) Aug 11 18:57:28 ok, so maybe a round up of footage we already have? Aug 11 18:58:17 yeh Aug 11 18:58:29 melbourne: interviews with texta (short, have to check sound quality) tom/civil , Aug 11 18:59:40 footage of 1 factory, one empty show remains Aug 11 18:59:47 lots of good stills Aug 11 19:00:08 did u have a look at the melb footage? Aug 11 19:00:10 perth: none.. still gotta ring crew (yok, taggers, some secret underground art mob here) and get a camera.. it'll happen just been swamped Aug 11 19:00:14 adelaide: interview with 'anarchist cat woman' / paste up artist Aug 11 19:00:37 yup, only a fraction of the interviews though Aug 11 19:00:37 * finn is havin trouble seeing straight - goin into lurk mode Aug 11 19:01:07 was quite shaky footage inside the factories, but if we slow it down i reckon it will be alright Aug 11 19:01:49 we need tripods Aug 11 19:02:00 still some good stuff though Aug 11 19:02:15 nz: interview with miss moon Aug 11 19:02:45 [performance artist] Aug 11 19:02:57 does politcal street stuff Aug 11 19:03:15 we need to contact sydney trouble makers though, to get footage of her actual actions Aug 11 19:03:24 yeah Aug 11 19:03:29 unfortunately she now lives in eastern europe Aug 11 19:03:39 but i reckon sydney peeps will have some footage Aug 11 19:03:48 she might have footage of her own too Aug 11 19:03:52 hey pabs: we'll do funkjunction/junkas mob too Aug 11 19:03:59 yep Aug 11 19:04:01 yup, the question is can she get it to us Aug 11 19:04:13 funkjunction? Aug 11 19:04:26 i'd like to interview mar too wowi, for a bit of history and performance stuff Aug 11 19:04:37 crazy performance crew.. they make music on junk and things... Aug 11 19:04:41 YERH Aug 11 19:04:43 cool Aug 11 19:04:48 we need to get a cam.. Aug 11 19:05:08 doesn't the guild have one you can use? Aug 11 19:05:12 we could ask tws for borrowage, or u could get a uni one wowi Aug 11 19:05:18 pabs: wanna set a date and i'll apply to borrow one.. has to be soon tho.. cos they give priority to film students Aug 11 19:05:32 oh yeh the guild :) Aug 11 19:05:43 and i own a tripod :)) Aug 11 19:05:53 * shayne might be able to borrow his folks dv cam Aug 11 19:05:59 rockin Aug 11 19:06:08 double rockin Aug 11 19:06:09 yerh! Aug 11 19:06:14 the guild has a shitto one too. Aug 11 19:06:28 (read no funkomatic firewire) Aug 11 19:06:49 also we need to get another interview with tom Aug 11 19:07:02 we didn't finish talking to him Aug 11 19:07:09 al will be hanging with him Aug 11 19:07:17 and he's calling anna to film Aug 11 19:07:27 but i dont know about that cas she's in newcastle Aug 11 19:07:36 we could ask and_ to boz a cam Aug 11 19:07:43 or shane Aug 11 19:07:47 would also be good to talk to the ppeeps who do those giant robot paste ups Aug 11 19:07:54 yeh Aug 11 19:08:03 i mean.. when do we want this done by? Aug 11 19:08:12 cos i'll be back sometime soon.. Aug 11 19:08:30 i reckon we want all our footage by end of the year Aug 11 19:08:32 i could even doit next weekend maybe? Aug 11 19:08:41 :) Aug 11 19:08:47 cos if i go to tassie it's via melbs Aug 11 19:08:49 you are going to melbourne next weekend? Aug 11 19:08:58 ..tasmania Aug 11 19:09:03 cool fun Aug 11 19:09:11 yeh :) Aug 11 19:09:17 not sure tho.. broke as Aug 11 19:09:24 heh, see what urban art is around in tassie ;0 Aug 11 19:09:29 YEH Aug 11 19:09:37 well... and_ must know people Aug 11 19:09:47 surely :) Aug 11 19:09:55 and that tws woman Aug 11 19:10:00 heidi Aug 11 19:10:15 what kind of studd does she do? Aug 11 19:10:19 stuff Aug 11 19:10:21 heh Aug 11 19:10:45 tws propaganda videos abotu tassie forests Aug 11 19:10:54 ah right Aug 11 19:11:22 you wouldn't think it would be so hard getting a camera in melbourne Aug 11 19:12:32 when is allan going to be there? Aug 11 19:12:37 what about skatv? Aug 11 19:12:42 on friday Aug 11 19:13:14 cool, how long for? Aug 11 19:13:43 ska tv.. Aug 11 19:13:45 not sure. hes there for some poets festival. probly a few weeks Aug 11 19:13:45 possibility Aug 11 19:13:55 but they'd want to have it then Aug 11 19:14:18 you can only boz if you're one of the crew.. or there anthony.. who has his own Aug 11 19:14:25 yer all subscribed to urbanart - cept shayne - shayne u want in ? Aug 11 19:14:25 but he'd wanna keep it ska Aug 11 19:15:04 i txted and_ to join the meeting.. to find out about anna Aug 11 19:15:10 and cameras Aug 11 19:15:43 --> and_ has joined #creativity Aug 11 19:16:25 and_: so, whats the sitch with cameras in melb - allan is gonna be there on friday/saturday Aug 11 19:16:40 oh, umm Aug 11 19:16:53 what camera did you use last time? Aug 11 19:17:00 annas Aug 11 19:17:03 maybe put allan in contact with anna Aug 11 19:17:07 oh cool Aug 11 19:17:12 i don't have one so..... Aug 11 19:17:16 but she is in newcastle tho isn't she? Aug 11 19:17:33 no she's back now Aug 11 19:17:58 ah, cool Aug 11 19:18:06 crankin Aug 11 19:18:14 anything else? Aug 11 19:18:27 if not her then he could contact ska or grubbie Aug 11 19:18:38 oh, grub hasa cam? Aug 11 19:18:45 --- wowi is now known as wowi_eatin Aug 11 19:18:46 yeah i think so Aug 11 19:18:46 coolies Aug 11 19:18:59 he said he didn't Aug 11 19:19:08 oh, maybe doesn't then Aug 11 19:19:18 maybe he just didn't want us using it :) Aug 11 19:19:34 anything else? i gotta go in a sec Aug 11 19:19:50 sorry dudes.. thai noodles BRS Aug 11 19:19:55 *BRB Aug 11 19:19:56 do you remember the name of the guy Aug 11 19:20:01 who had soe footage? Aug 11 19:20:13 SOE footage i mean Aug 11 19:20:14 keith Aug 11 19:20:25 ah right, thanks Aug 11 19:20:34 know how we can get hold of him? Aug 11 19:20:36 humantorch13 mail com Aug 11 19:20:44 cheers Aug 11 19:21:36 [i am taking notes btw, if anyone is wondering] Aug 11 19:22:12 cool. i'm logging Aug 11 19:22:35 pabs, and progress on finding out whether we can use that billboard footage? Aug 11 19:22:46 would be good to have more of that kind of stuff too Aug 11 19:22:58 oh, no. i'll email him now Aug 11 19:23:02 yay Aug 11 19:23:11 wowi_eatin: yeah, u said you know a tagger? Aug 11 19:23:15 or can contact one? Aug 11 19:23:26 catchas Aug 11 19:23:33 see ya Aug 11 19:23:41 <-- and_ has quit (Quit: Leaving) Aug 11 19:23:42 thanks Aug 11 19:24:18 also doll yoko is getting more footage - of paste ups and also that spray painting party that happened Aug 11 19:24:34 but it's not definate we can use the painting party footage Aug 11 19:24:54 shes checking with someone involved first Aug 11 19:26:19 awesome Aug 11 19:27:03 for the SOE footage, it would be good to also interview someone about that whole thing Aug 11 19:27:48 like eleven maybe Aug 11 19:27:53 or shayne Aug 11 19:28:01 whoevers keen Aug 11 19:28:03 yeah Aug 11 19:28:08 yeah Aug 11 19:29:32 anything else on the footage subject? Aug 11 19:29:50 or shall we hash out our aims some more? Aug 11 19:30:04 ah. what about stills? are they usefull much? Aug 11 19:30:24 yup , they are useful Aug 11 19:30:40 we have some from melbourne, lots of good stuff. Aug 11 19:30:44 anywhere else? Aug 11 19:30:55 wowi_eatin: said her sis had some from perth Aug 11 19:30:56 pics we took, and a cd full from tom Aug 11 19:31:05 cool Aug 11 19:31:22 ok. we should email some more places Aug 11 19:31:35 email more places? Aug 11 19:31:40 --- wowi_eatin is now known as wowi Aug 11 19:31:51 more cities Aug 11 19:32:02 yeah, i want stuff from manilla Aug 11 19:32:04 manila brisbane, darwin. down south, etc Aug 11 19:32:31 * claremarie shudders at brisbane Aug 11 19:32:32 tassie :) Aug 11 19:32:53 jakarta? Aug 11 19:33:00 yep Aug 11 19:33:02 yup Aug 11 19:33:21 finn: chuck that in your email to bowo too. Aug 11 19:34:45 --- wowi is now known as wowi_afk Aug 11 19:34:59 k, anything else? Aug 11 19:35:56 ok. we should do some emailing - aggy, adam c. some wa peeps. jakarta. manila Aug 11 19:36:24 dont email wa peeps.. Aug 11 19:36:24 yup Aug 11 19:36:32 we'll ask em in person! Aug 11 19:36:34 no? Aug 11 19:36:38 :) Aug 11 19:36:48 wowi_afk: what about albany/denmark ppl? Aug 11 19:37:59 pecifically the person i sent the newsreal to - angela - she went to anarcon Aug 11 19:38:34 does anyone feel like writing a generic callout email? Aug 11 19:38:49 we can send to various parties who might be interested Aug 11 19:39:22 i'll write a draft and send to the list first Aug 11 19:39:35 coolies Aug 11 19:39:38 so everyone can have some imput in it Aug 11 19:39:40 allan is here Aug 11 19:39:47 --> Brother_X has joined #creativity Aug 11 19:40:01 hi allan Aug 11 19:40:13 too many rooms Aug 11 19:40:29 :) yep - we got taken over now that irc.indy is down Aug 11 19:40:57 yeah i saw that - so is this the meeting? Aug 11 19:40:58 hi allan Aug 11 19:41:02 yup Aug 11 19:41:21 hi clare Aug 11 19:42:16 my brain is starting to shut down now Aug 11 19:42:19 great ANOTHER list Aug 11 19:42:25 so where we at? Aug 11 19:42:30 whats the guts? Aug 11 19:42:32 hehe Aug 11 19:42:42 anyone gonna be in melb next week Aug 11 19:42:57 cool Aug 11 19:43:24 i wish i was gonna be in melbourne next week ;) Aug 11 19:43:39 is gonna be fkn cold i hear Aug 11 19:43:52 apparently anna is back now, so hopefully you can borrow her camera if you want to do some filming Aug 11 19:44:06 yup, take warm things Aug 11 19:44:12 cool Aug 11 19:44:29 i'm gonna catch up with tom [civil] late next wek Aug 11 19:44:39 coolies Aug 11 19:44:42 might be able to scope an empty Aug 11 19:45:00 i'll know more when i get to melb anyway Aug 11 19:45:14 i wonder if that empty is still standing Aug 11 19:45:49 wowi was saying that thers already some footage/inty with civil... Aug 11 19:46:13 yup Aug 11 19:46:19 and with texta Aug 11 19:46:46 ah yeah - shes cool hey Aug 11 19:46:58 from perth too - same as micky quick Aug 11 19:47:08 but the interview with tom wasn't finshed Aug 11 19:47:23 ah ok Aug 11 19:47:32 we started talking about practical stuff, when camera battery and film ran out Aug 11 19:47:36 :) Aug 11 19:47:53 tom is very passionate about talking about 'how to' side of things Aug 11 19:48:02 love to give a demo on cam - but toms the expert Aug 11 19:48:24 yeah he inspired me to get into it Aug 11 19:49:27 so i'll give anna a call in melb next week then? Aug 11 19:50:14 am i missing something? Aug 11 19:50:38 her phone no? Aug 11 19:51:32 Brother_X: call and_ & get her no: 0439 093 779 Aug 11 19:51:35 u got it? i think marie gave it tome Aug 11 19:51:43 i reckon the main thing is getting footage of poeple *doing* things Aug 11 19:51:44 i don't Aug 11 19:51:48 yeah Aug 11 19:52:22 "doing" yeah Aug 11 19:52:43 i'm dead keento paint up in melb hey Aug 11 19:52:55 so hopefuylly theres a cam around Aug 11 19:53:18 0422 976 046 Aug 11 19:53:20 and toms keen to hook up - we'll make sure theres someone there to cover it Aug 11 19:53:22 annas number Aug 11 19:53:24 is that anna Aug 11 19:53:27 cheers Aug 11 19:56:12 bloody quiet in here Aug 11 19:56:46 a little too quiet Aug 11 19:57:05 * pabs eatin Aug 11 19:57:48 i gotta give this back to my t inna minute Aug 11 19:57:56 agenda: footage, interviews we still want to get, round up of whta we have already Aug 11 19:57:56 aims (i didn't actually transfer that from my notes to the wiki, cos it was basically'incite people to do illegal things') Aug 11 19:58:08 cheers pabs ;) Aug 11 19:58:16 we've done footage, interviews, roundup Aug 11 19:58:23 shall we talk some more about aims then? Aug 11 19:58:59 basically in that cafe in melb. we talke about how we wanted to encourage people to modify their environments ;) Aug 11 19:58:59 ok Aug 11 19:59:21 and generally beautify their spaces/ disrespect private property Aug 11 19:59:33 paint cracks in the city Aug 11 19:59:53 reclaim spaces Aug 11 19:59:54 ok Aug 11 20:00:29 yeah exactly - reappropriate the urban street scapes Aug 11 20:00:29 Brother_X: a rant to add? Aug 11 20:00:41 'to encourage immorality and destruction' says finn ;) Aug 11 20:00:42 un-commodify art Aug 11 20:01:06 we need a cool logo tho - what about that sticker finn has as his laptop background Aug 11 20:01:14 with spraycans in hand? Aug 11 20:01:15 yeah, i like the un-commodify bit very much ;) Aug 11 20:01:16 to liberate the static conditions of the gallerycentric canvas Aug 11 20:01:46 claremarie: u read my manifesto? Aug 11 20:01:56 no, where can i find it? Aug 11 20:02:22 dcc-ing it to u now/... Aug 11 20:02:24 http://wiki.perthimc.asn.au/indyperth/AntiPoet Aug 11 20:02:43 http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/2002-12-31/frozen.jpg Aug 11 20:03:46 cool, thanks Aug 11 20:04:55 well, i WAS sending it to ya! Aug 11 20:05:00 meh, i can't get the dcc thing to work - i click on accept, and it doesn't respond Aug 11 20:05:05 but use the url if u must! Aug 11 20:05:16 http://wiki.perthimc.asn.au/indyperth/AntiPoet Aug 11 20:05:17 yeah i used the url Aug 11 20:05:31 cool Aug 11 20:05:39 ah ok - yeah theres some juicy stuff in there related to anti-art etc Aug 11 20:05:56 feel free to use whatever... Aug 11 20:06:13 pabs - whats that image from? Aug 11 20:06:30 #ircd folks - zl2tod Aug 11 20:06:42 its from a raytracing competition Aug 11 20:06:57 k Aug 11 20:07:01 it's midnight here, i gotta head off soon Aug 11 20:07:17 cool - we can contunue on the NEW list anyway Aug 11 20:07:50 :) Aug 11 20:08:39 any images etc from nz? Aug 11 20:10:14 not yet but soon Aug 11 20:10:27 any crew doing stuff Aug 11 20:10:37 i've seen stuff on stencil-revolution Aug 11 20:10:41 i think Aug 11 20:11:01 are there any art/tagger lists we can spam? Aug 11 20:12:34 yeah i've been chattin a little on a perth taggers forum Aug 11 20:12:42 no deedt on this pc Aug 11 20:12:57 will chase all up when i get back from melb Aug 11 20:13:03 cool Aug 11 20:13:11 well i think i shall go Aug 11 20:13:17 but i'd also like to re-do the norwood or even next door gs Aug 11 20:13:26 cool clarem Aug 11 20:13:44 cool, cya then claremarie Aug 11 20:13:53 i hope finn gets better soon Aug 11 20:13:58 citrus finn! Aug 11 20:14:08 honey Aug 11 20:14:15 and garlic Aug 11 20:14:32 ecenacia Aug 11 20:14:37 and sleep and real food ;0 Aug 11 20:14:43 [/sp] Aug 11 20:14:48 heh :) Aug 11 20:14:52 real food yeah - whats that Aug 11 20:15:08 sleep is good tho. and reiki maybe Aug 11 20:15:14 i think it has green stuff in it Aug 11 20:15:34 :) and orange Aug 11 20:15:43 iunprocessed rocks Aug 11 20:16:18 Brother_X: i was saying before we should interview mar b. to get a historical perspective. recon he has pics of the old days? Aug 11 20:16:26 anywas, goodnight all ;) Aug 11 20:16:26 seeya Aug 11 20:16:32 i'll post up the notes tomorrow Aug 11 20:16:34 sure mar yeah Aug 11 20:16:38 <-- claremarie has quit (Quit: Client exiting)