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--- Log opened czw lis 02 00:00:16 2006
00:05 < yuri> brenamiel - pfp is breaking many things
00:05 < yuri> PFP is invading houses in many neighborhoods
00:05 < yuri> everybody stay together and stay calm
00:06 < yuri> stay awake!
00:06 < yuri> everybody protect each other.
00:06 < yuri> everybody take pictures!
00:07 < yuri> try to catch all the stupid things that PFP is 
     doing.
00:07 < yuri> stay awake!
00:07 < yuri> call to radio appo and talk about what's goin on 
     the streets.
00:08 < mahtin> 9511246941?
00:08 < mahtin> that's too many numbers
00:08 < yuri> i think she is always saying two numbers.
00:09 < yuri> i can't hear them.
00:09 < yuri> more music
00:14 < mahtin> please excuse the interruptions that the oaxacan 
     revolution is causing to our regular programming
00:15 < mahtin> asking for peopel to report from the brenamiel 
     barricade
00:15 < mahtin> phone call:
00:15 < mahtin> noone there
00:15 < mahtin> there they are...
00:17 < mahtin> i am a oaxacan by birth...listening to the other 
     radio station as well...very disappointed by the entrance of the 
     "public" forces- you don't even feel safe walking ont eh streets
00:18 < mahtin> they don't lovethe people, they want to control 
     thru fear
00:18 < mahtin> what we have to do is stay with our consciousness 
     (political)...
00:18 < mahtin> they are worried about tourism...(?)
00:19 < mahtin> these european cities have all had their ( protests 
     ), in a central plaza
00:22 < mahtin> ...talking about the problems that are caused 
     when there are rich and poor
00:25 < mahtin> talks about the meaning ofthe word "don," how 
     it sets "Don so and so" apart
00:26 < mahtin> another person calls and hangs up
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00:28 < mahtin> .... we should call our comp@s and friends in 
     other parts of the world, because oaxaca is suffering from the 
     police siege
00:29 < mahtin> they are spreading disinformation out there, 
     saying oaxaca is at piece
00:29 < mahtin> we have to demonstrate the situation that we 
     find ourselves in (explain it to the world)
00:30 < mahtin> ...
00:30 < mahtin> be careful, but we won't give up- they have not 
     beaten us, they have not won
00:30 < mahtin> we have to respond to this historic moment
00:31 < mahtin> let's collect our stuff, so we can share and 
     have it when we need it
00:31 < mahtin> let's protectt his radio station, with our lives, 
     if needed
00:31 < mahtin> they have not understood that we Oaxacans are 
     still standing, in spite of everything
00:31 < mahtin> a bit ago, there was resistance at Channel 9
00:32 < mahtin> groups of people were demonstrating on every 
     corner of the Zocalo...there's the barricade on Cinco Senores, 
     the others, the mass in honor of Brad Will (tho he is a gringo, 
     he is now our compan~ero), also now the plaza de santo domingo 
     and the tourist area are full of people
00:32 < mahtin> oaxaquen~os who say "Basta!"
00:33 < mahtin> with our heart and forehead up high...
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00:33 < mahtin> we are going to keep resisting, reason(correctness) 
     is on ourside
00:33 < mahtin> thank you to the virgen de guadalupe...
00:34 < mahtin> how are we going to tell the mother of the oaxacans 
     that one of the children here was killed?
00:34 < mahtin> fox is a murderer
00:34 < toya> how they will explain the crimes they have committed 
     in oaxaca....how they will telll the mothe of th emeixcans how 
     thye have killed a kid
00:34 < toya> ops
00:34 < mahtin> we will wash our hands, because these are stains 
     from work, but the blood stains on fox's hands will never come 
     off
00:35 < mahtin> i thank you, my friends, for the opportunity 
     to share with you...
00:35 < mahtin> how to explain that a teacher walking on the 
     street has to hide his credentials to avoid being detained?
00:35 < mahtin> we will support them in whatever conditions, 
     even in a return to classes...
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     2.0/2006101023]]
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00:41 < mahtin> ...
00:41 < mahtin> need help to reinforce the brenamiel barricade
00:41 < mahtin> to have cameras outthere to "capture" evidence 
     of what they are doing to us
00:43 < mahtin> guest- shoutout to colonos, friends who are out 
     there... we repudiate what tehy are do
00:43 < mahtin> what they are doing, although uro thinks he's 
     still in power...
00:44 < mahtin> we are fighting on the people's side...
00:44 < mahtin> (that was a professor)
00:44 < mahtin> asking the human rights ocmmission to get to 
     brenamiel
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00:47 < mahtin> ...
00:47 < mahtin> i am very proud to be a university student...
00:47 < mahtin> i am glad people our defending our autonomy...
00:47 < mahtin> we are going to close all the schools, the universities, 
     until we get the city back
00:47 < mahtin> we are very proud of our fallen comp@s
00:48 < mahtin> ... i want the teachers to stay strong till that 
     guy goes
00:48 < mahtin> this is a diverse(?) radio, of the oaxacan people, 
     we need a goverment that doesn't repress people
00:49 < mahtin> also i invite pres fox to visit oaxaca- if he 
     says it's peaceful, we're here waiting for him...
00:49 < mahtin> we will not take as tep back until uro is gone
00:49 < mahtin> (end call)
00:50 < mahtin> comp@ here to read a poem
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00:54 < mahtin> ...caller...
00:57 < mahtin> flagrant violation of human rights- man trying 
     to take down data about human rights abuses...
00:58 < mahtin> people are being questioned and detained- doesn't 
     matter if they are kids or elderly or what their health or gender 
     is- they are questioning everyone (this would be in Brenamiel 
     area)
00:58 < mahtin> poet: another very nice poem about the resistance 
     and heroic deaths...
00:59 < mahtin> host: we have the right to protest...they are 
     supposed to serve society...
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01:01 < mahtin> golpearoccas?  name of poet?
01:01 < mahtin> host- so there's a big human rights violation 
     our there
01:02 < mahtin> urgent call to people around brenamiel, area 
     aroudn there to get out there, in spite of the pfp's violence, 
     we have to get out and write down and record the impunity with 
     which they are acting
01:02 < mahtin> we have to support the compan~er@s
01:02 < mahtin> we have to stay united and organized
01:02 < mahtin> and not allow mass detentions
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01:03 < mahtin> luna!
01:03 < mahtin> we are calling all sectors and all people in 
     oaxaca
01:04 < mahtin> caller-we are organizing at barricades...
01:06 < mahtin> neighbors at (?)higuera and brenamiel, people 
     are suffering out there frm the pfp, like the caller said we have 
     to reorganize by colonia ands ector and mobilize
01:06 < mahtin> and we have to keep them from detaining more 
     people
01:06 < mahtin> another caller
01:07 < mahtin> a bus is on fire?
01:07 < mahtin> and we have to keep an eye out for when people, 
     the youth, do things like this?
01:07 < mahtin> as much as they want to support, we have to have 
     our 5 senses very sensitive
01:08 < mahtin> (alert)
01:08 < mahtin> the compa who had just called, something about 
     the barricade at 5 sen~ores, this caller agrees we have to be 
     very organized
01:09 < mahtin> ... missed some...
01:09 < mahtin> host we are getting al ot of calls for support 
     at the barricades
01:10 < mahtin> this corroborates things we've been hearing
01:10 < mahtin> also repression from the pfp at higuera
01:10 < mahtin> jorge sanchez report to his house, please cuz 
     people are worried about him
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01:10 < mahtin> at 5 sen~ores, some trucks came by and took 2 
     people- if anyone saw what happened, has photos, video, any testimony, 
     come to 5 sen~ores and give that info
01:11 < mahtin> so weneed all the neighbors to come outr and 
     witness what the pfp is doing
01:11 < mahtin> (is anyone posting this ont eh web?)
01:12 < mahtin> act with hot heart, cold head
01:12 < mahtin> we have to keep up our reorganization
01:12 < mahtin> if they want to take a barricade, let them take 
     it, just rebuild it when they leave
01:12 < mahtin> they came in but they don't know when they are 
     going to leave
01:12 < mahtin> we have to show them our capacity, organized 
     we will stop the repressive politics/policies
01:13 < mahtin> bringing food and supplies to people show good 
     face, camoflaged
01:13 < mahtin> they will not stop us or quiet
01:13 < mahtin> we don't know how many disappeared and killed 
     we have, we have to demand their live presentation...(showt he 
     people who are detained/disappeared)
01:14  * luna_ shit fell asleep.. how many hours have u been 
     doing this maht? coffe
01:14 < mahtin> as one ofthe first measures ew are adopting: 
     reorganize, keep up the mobilizations from different sectors, 
     reinforce; 
01:14 < mahtin> 1.5 hours
01:14 < mahtin> show your creativity
01:15 < mahtin> we will have huge actions, stay firm...make the 
     repressive forces retreat...
01:15 -!- skep|away is now known as skep
01:15 < mahtin> they are calling from the barricades to say that 
     horrible things are happening out there
01:15 < mahtin> hosts ask that senator(s) and human rights commission 
     get out and get their stories
01:16 < mahtin> compas: go out and verify what is passing
01:16 < mahtin> senator is rosario ibarra?
01:16 < mahtin> these grave actions are going on out there
01:17 < mahtin> tomorrow we are goiong to be able to show our 
     organizational capacity
01:18 < mahtin> have to strengthen the barricades, they willnot 
     pass
01:18 < mahtin> we have to support our comp@s who are out there
01:18 < mahtin> but avoid confrontation... and record their actions
01:19 < mahtin> ...
01:19 < mahtin> uro dooesn't have the true support of the people 
     anymore
01:20 < mahtin> ...?
01:20 < mahtin> they are inviting the priistas to ahve a march...a 
     comp@ saw them when he was out walking (?)
01:20 < mahtin> ...
01:21 < mahtin> we are getting al ot of comments about what is 
     going on at the barricades, the time is right to get out there 
     and verify it
01:21 < mahtin> guest:
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01:22 < mahtin> reporting on her experiences, thanking people 
     who helped her esp at the barricades at 5 sen~ores
01:22 < mahtin> i can't hear where she is saying what happened 
     happened
01:23 < mahtin> one can't walk out there without the support 
     of someone else
01:23 < mahtin> ...?
01:23 < mahtin> did they have guns at this attack- yes
01:24 < mahtin> we're going to give out the phone numbers for 
     denouncing what is going on
01:24 < mahtin> we call for everyone who wants to go out and 
     support the intersectiona t 5 sen~ores
01:25 < mahtin> take this moments to get out there to support 
     that and ciudad universitari
01:25 < mahtin> a
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01:25 < mahtin> is anyone reading this
01:26 < mahtin> guest: talking aboit what is going on with pfp, 
     wes hould organize clandestinely
01:26 < mahtin> so i guess i can stop translating now
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01:35  * luna_ me
01:36 < luna_> and its being logged
01:36 < mahtin> even what i did above, luna?
01:36 < luna_> are we winning mahtin?
01:36 < luna_> yep 
01:36 < luna_> everythin
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01:42 < mahtin> need people to come out and support the barricade 
     at montoya (?)
01:42 < luna_> i am not sure
01:43 < luna_> university
01:43 < luna_> ----
01:43 < luna_> students are calling for a meeting tomorrow at 
     1pm
01:43 < luna_> meet at radio universidad
01:43 < luna_> -
01:43 < luna_> they have also payed someone to build the priista 
     altars 
01:44 < luna_> there are priista paramilitaries running around 
     the city, talking on everyone they come across
01:44  * luna_ Wednesday, November 1, 2006 at 6:44:32 PM CST
01:44  * luna_ from here, time stamping it http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=155
01:45  * luna_ in case it comes useful later 2 quickly scan what 
     happened when
01:45 < mahtin> people who know joel santiago ramirez please 
     contact the following number...


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