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Ceci est une proposition pour le d\xE9veloppement du concept FilmForge. N'h\xE9sitez pas \xE0 modifier, contribuer, developper: http://wiki.koumbit.net/FilmForge. - sasha

Id\xE9e Essentielle

Gestion de projet "videographique" libre/ouverte / communaut\xE9 d'utilisateurs. Comme Sourceforge (http://www.sourceforge.net) mais pour la production de film.

Courte Description

FilmForge pourrait \xEAtre une communaut\xE9 de " fabricants " de films travaillant avec un ensemble commun d'outils de gestion de projet , pour chaque \xE9tape de la production du film, qui permettrait aux initiateurs de projetthat enabled and encouraged project initiators to think about and set their own parameters for how open or closed each step of production would be. Par exemple, FilmForge pourrait inclure:

Un outil script. \xE7a pourrait \xEAtre un wiki; les initiateurs du projet pourront d\xE9terminer le niveau de collaborativit\xE9, depuis l'absence de collaborateurs (le script est deja fig\xE9), la pr\xE9sence de collaborateurs invit\xE9s (les initiateurs du projet invitent des individus auxquels ils accordent l'autorisation de modifier le script) en passant pasr la pr\xE9sence d'utilisateurs enregistr\xE9s et jusqu'\xE0 un fonctionnement totalement ouvert (n'importe qui peut acc\xE9der au script et le modifier). Une fois le script est 'fait' (\xE0 determiner selon le cas par l'initiateur du projet ou par tous les participants), celui-ci peut \xEAtre 'gel\xE9' (ou forked) et le projet peut passer \xE0 l'\xE9tape suivante: storyboard. Exemples: for a fully functional, open source preproduction package see http://www.celtx.com. For a simple script to format wikis like screenplays, see http://tinyurl.com/hzond.

Un outil storyboard. \xE0 partir du script, les collaborateurs du projet (une fois encore, open/closed determined by project initiator) use this tool to generate storyboard from the script.

shot (media) acquisition tool. Based on storyboard, participants submit media (footage, stills, audio, etc.) to the project's media bin / pool.

Un outil logging. (peut-\xEAtre combin\xE9 \xE0 l'acquisition). Permettant aux participants de voir, selectionner, tag, et noter and rate media that has been submitted to the project. With video clips, needs to be able to allow browser based submission of in and out points. Ideally this is done directly within the clip viewer (see example of this capability at http://jumpcut.com; http://eyespot.com) but can also be a simple webform for entering timecode in/out.

Un outil \xE9dition. Une fois encore, se rappeler que les initiateurs du projet peuvent ouvrir ou fermer l'\xE9tape \xE9dition autant qu'ils le souhaitent. Ils auront, peut-\xEAtre, un \xE9diteur particulier avec lequel ils pr\xE9fereront travailler; peut-\xEAtre voudront-ils l'ouvrir enti\xE8rement au public. Peut-\xEAtre quelques parties du projet seront ouvertes, tandis que d'autres resteront ferm\xE9es. In any case, the idea is that whoever is editing can drag media files from the media bin/pool into project timeline. (See http://eyespot.com for kind of clunky, but working, implementation of this idea; http://jumpcut.com for a slightly better version - and rabble tells me it's built on top of FOSS Gstreamer: http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/).

Un outil de transcription et de sous-titrage. Exemples: voir http://www.dotsub.com) ou Subtitles Workshop qui semble \xEAtre un freeware voir http://www.urusoft.net/downloads.php?lang=1

Un outil de distribution Un outil pour faciliter la participation d'un grand nombre de personnes pour organiser des projections, ventes. (exemple: see http://crm2.metamute.org/)


Yochai Benkler \xE9tudia utilement les conditions dans lesquelles la production commune peut r\xE9ussir. Il pense que cela n\xE9cessite une capacit\xE9 de production largement distribu\xE9e, une solide base de connaissance/qualification, ainsi qu'une modularit\xE9 et une granularit\xE9 suffisante du processus de production. La modularit\xE9 signifie que le processus means that the process can be broken down into chunks that can be swapped in and out. La Granularit\xE9 means that these chunks can be small enough and manageable enough so that large numbers of people can take a small chunk (while a smaller number of people will deal with larger chunks).

Le processus de production d'images anim\xE9es peut-il r\xE9unir ces conditions? I would argue that it can, and that it is possible for a vast, distributed network of people to produce feature length films that are successful by all criterion of filmmaking.

This process can theoretically be used to produce many different kinds of material. However, there are real differences between genres in modularity. For example, individual actors are not modular, unless they are CGI (in which case the code for the character can be passed around to different people who all create different shots, then reassemble later). A story that closely follows one individual actor can't be distributed in the same way. To begin with, documentaries and perhaps animated films are the genres that most obviously lend themselves to this kind of process.

A documentary is ideal b/c it includes a large number of fine grained tasks that may not be present in other genres, in part because B-Roll may be drawn from such a wide range of sources. It fits perfectly to have a huge list of B-Roll clips, stills, scanned documents, and so on, each of which could be found and submitted to the project media base by a different individual.

C'est aussi le type de processus parfait pour faire des films/documentaires qui examinent certains aspects de la mondialisation, where you need to pull in footage from around the world.

I would guess that we would probably see the following pattern across projects:

* Un groupe principal de 5-50 personnes assurera probablement l'essentiel du travail * Un r\xE9seau plus important de 500-5,000 personnes pourraitpeople might contribute some small element * Need a good system of peer review for each stage (to weed out the crap)


Par exemple, un documentaire sur les migrations humaines et les droits des migrants est un sujet id\xE9al.

A nationwide network of video makers, programmers, and activists, and May 1st last year triggered us to take an initial step of putting out a call for independent documentary makers to contribute footage of mobilizations (here's the call: http://www.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-0604/msg00078.html)

So, we now have a huge pile of mobilization footage. (here's the footage: http://www.videobomb.com/tags/show/noborders).

This is cool, but of course it's only one part of being able to tell a compelling and deep story about immigrant rights. To take it to the next level, we can try, as much as possible, to experiment with this distributed production process.

[task: watch submitted footage and mark selects]

Same goes for audio tracks.

Transcipt and subtitles will practically write themselves.

Quel est le mod\xE8le de distribution?

Fonction cl\xE9: 'filmforge' Here's the key function of the process: tracking and organizing. Think of the role that sourceforge.net plays in the development of all kinds of FOSS (Logiciel Libre et Open Source)projects.

Technical Requirements

* Everything is FOSS (Logiciel Libre et Open Source) * Need to examine and select CMS to build on. Likely candidates: Drupal, Plone. * Does everything have to be Flash? Check the state of VLC for FireFox. * Video codec prefer ogg vorbis, but either will need to convert people's files or support as many as possible. * If we need to host media, can probably use internet archive


Process Chart

Etat de l'art/El\xE9ments existants

Mais il ne s'agit pas r\xE9ellement de ce dont je parle, car ils sont tous produits par de petites \xE9quipes sans participation massive distribu\xE9e in any element (script, shooting, post). Swarm of Angels en est surement le plus proche.

* Various Indymedia documentaries, made with large numbers of people (typically 50-150) contributing footage and smaller numbers (5-15) contributing editing and postproduction tasks. These are also usually subtitled in many languages by a distributed network of people. Most of these are shot without a coherent script beforehand, and document protests and mass mobilizations. Examples: This is What Democracy Looks Like, Kilometer Zero, Zona Rossa, the Miami Model. These are closer to the idea I'm proposing b/c they spread production labor more widely. However, they typically so far have failed to involve large numbers of people in post production, and except for shooting haven't been able to really reach that stage beyond a core project team (haven't reached fine grained modularity that could bring in a thousand contributors).

(activist) media-related FOSS


NOTE: expanding p2p to the physical realm: http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/?p=434

Additional video sites: http://dabble.com/

-- SashaCostanzaChock - 10 Oct 2006

-- SerpicO - 19 Oct 2006 D\xE9part d'une trad en fran\xE7ais
Topic revision: r7 - 30 Apr 2007, SashaCostanzaChock
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