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evan's analysis 11.08.04 - Mie Ago 11 20:59:56 PDT 2004

• http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/cmi-venezuela/2004-August/0813-6e.html
• (es) 1. No hay un indymedia Venezuela. Hay grupos de diferente facciones aveces que hablar sobre la idea, pero no hay una grupo, y claramente no hay una grupo de indymedia Venezuela que pasa la proceso de nuevos IMC's.
• (en) 1. First, there is no indymedia venezuela. There are groups from different vactions which have at times talked about the idea, but there is no one gruop, and more importantly, there is no group which has or could pass through the New-IMC process.
  • several groups are interested
  • no group or meta-group would be considered ready for the new-imc process right now (August 2004) (presumably because they haven't got to the stage of deciding they want an IMC and that they can consense on editorial policy and decision-making process etc etc)

Warning: this is just a rough draft and will hopefully be corrected (and translated) during the next few days during the PGA... and then sent to new-imc when the info is a bit clearer.

At the PGA meeting in Belgrade http://www.pgaconference.org 23-29 July 2004, a Venezuelan activist and a spanish-speaking person living in Venezuela feel that a group of internet activists who are part of a huge, radically grassroots, local, autonomous media network, have been unfairly rejected from being integrated into the indymedia network because of a small group of supposed "anarchists" with no real grassroots contacts claimed that the autonomous network was too closely associated with "the state".

For the original contact in April 2002, see http://archives.lists.indymedia.org/cmi-venezuela/2002-April/thread.html

We found these emails by douglas aponte:

• http://archives.lists.indymedia.org/new-imc/2002-April/002043.html

Response from martin (July 2004) http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/cmi-venezuela/2004-July/0725-sq.html

Debate by El libertario (anarchists) (date ????) http://www.nodo50.org/ellibertario/indymedia.htm

For the "group of internet activists", see:

http://www.aporrea.org

http://www.antiescualidos.com

some venezuela activist links from the 2004 Belgrade Euro-PGA meeting (not strictly indymedia): http://www.ourmayday.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?VenezuelaPachamerica

-- BouD - 24 Jul 2004

-- MarceloHumano - 25 Jul 2004