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11 January 2004, 16 GMT

agenda items:

• translations, mulitlingual www.indy
• responsibility for comments on features
• syndication
• design

proposal:

1) turning the translation option for articles on now.

2) trying to get spanish and local translations for every feature after it is posted for a trial period of 4 weeks.

3) engaging translations.indy to actually get those translations.

4) evaluate how things are going in 4 to 6 weeks

5) getting a translation for all buttons and texts on www.indy into spanish and maybe other relevant language, so that the page can actually displayed in those languages

[18:37] ok, we've got consensus to support the proposal as articulated by clara

6) outreach to get more latin american imcs in www-features and to mail features to local IMCs for additional remarks and translation

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***NEXT IRC MEETINGS: 1 Feb, 16:00 GMT and 22 Feb, 16:00 GMT irc.indymedia.org #features

IRC meeting 1/11 agenda: o translations o responsibility for comments o syndication o design

+ translations this issue was discussed at great length and composed the majority of the meeting inital opinions were diverse: some felt that features needed only to be in their local language before posting others felt every feature should be at minimum translated into english, english AND spanish, or english OR spanish prior to posting concerns were raised about whether multiple languages appearing on the same page might make the site confusing or unintelligible reference made to ftaaimc and a-infos, where user selects preferred language concerns about whether translation requirements might slow down posting process suggestion made for requiring all features to at least be translated into spanish before posting, with the argument that spanish features will be translated into english quickly consensus was reached on the following proposal:

1) turning the translation option for articles on now.

2) trying to get spanish and local translations for every feature after it is posted for a trial period of 4 weeks.

3) engaging translations.indy to actually get those translations.

4) evaluate how things are going in 4 to 6 weeks

5) getting a translation for all buttons and texts on www.indy into spanish and maybe other relevant language, so that the page can actually displayed in those languages

6) outreach to get more latin american imcs in www-features and to mail features to local IMCs for additional remarks and translation

+ responsibility for comments on features suggestion was made to follow similar guidelines as those posted by max (michigan-imc) in an earlier email comments that are intentionally misleading, false, or seriously offensive could be removed

+ syndication tabled until next meeting

+ design issues rabble reported on design issues suggested all pages should be css (cascading style sheets) or xhtml (extended-html) feels logo is too busy suggested following requirements for site: xhtml, css, readable, language links, center column and righthand column, and place for upcoming events feels we should solicit more designs and put them up for vote and suggested removing events section, arguing it is a hangover from former times (summit-hopping, etc.) and that indymedia is now a more daily news source discussion to be continued on www-migrations

+ blackbeard proposed another meeting to discuss philosophical issues surrounding role of features collective: i.e., should we compose original features or strictly operate as syndication of local imcs. those present consensed to discuss in separate meeting and to send out thoughts beforehand to features list

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-- ClarA - 11 Jan 2004