Aug 22 17:32:02 i'm writing an agenda on the wiki if u have something to put in it Aug 22 17:32:04 hiya pabs Aug 22 17:32:18 nice... you got a url for the lazy =) Aug 22 17:32:55 http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Local/OceaniaVideoMeeting1 Aug 22 17:34:09 --> andy_ has joined #oceania Aug 22 17:35:05 --- pabs has changed the topic to: http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Local/OceaniaVideoMeeting1 soon! || perth.indymedia.org/~shayne/organichelicopters.ogg Aug 22 17:36:40 pabs> maybe an item on CD/DVD distro Aug 22 17:37:56 indeed. feel free to add it (Guest, guest) - i'm editing other pages now Aug 22 17:39:17 done Aug 22 17:46:28 * shayne looks about Aug 22 17:46:31 heya Aug 22 17:51:52 ok, i'm back in 5 min. Aug 22 17:52:18 * PseudoPunk proposes to do ivdn first -- i probably can only stay for 45 min. Aug 22 17:52:23 <-- andy_ has quit (Quit: segfault) Aug 22 17:52:53 <-- edwin has quit (Quit: edwin) Aug 22 17:53:12 * pabs agrees Aug 22 17:53:24 now where are anna, and, heidi? Aug 22 17:53:50 and where the hell am I ?!@# Aug 22 17:58:19 --> theo-la-db has joined #oceania Aug 22 17:58:58 zl2tod: new zealand iirc ;P Aug 22 17:59:32 should we get started? Aug 22 18:00:43 <-- theo-la-db has quit (Client Quit) Aug 22 18:00:50 Waz: u wanna take notes as we go? Aug 22 18:01:11 i'll track the action items if you like. Aug 22 18:01:29 ok Aug 22 18:01:50 you facilitating? Aug 22 18:02:46 ahh, not really. i guess i can step in if things get outofhand Aug 22 18:03:34 --> theo-la-db has joined #oceania Aug 22 18:05:11 alright, it's 8:09... lets get started.... PP> what is the status of the IVDN code base? Aug 22 18:06:21 it should mostly work Aug 22 18:06:28 lexi is coding an admin interface Aug 22 18:06:57 would you reccomend us using the IVDN codebase for the oceania site? Aug 22 18:07:08 what about servers? (and where is dave) Aug 22 18:07:14 syndication or video site ? Aug 22 18:07:29 Waz: i think oceania might be like a subcategory on the ivdn site maybe Aug 22 18:07:30 either / both ? Aug 22 18:07:38 amd we could syndicate to the oceania site Aug 22 18:07:42 or something Aug 22 18:07:47 * andycat notes there is a test ivdn server at http://ivdn.cat.org.au Aug 22 18:07:54 the idea is to have a network of servers that interact through xml/rpc Aug 22 18:08:13 only problem is that we don't have a server yet :-) Aug 22 18:08:27 actually u need http://ivdn.cat.org.au/en/ Aug 22 18:08:55 i'm thinking either dave could get a server, or ski's new box could be put to work Aug 22 18:09:00 <-- theo-la-db has quit (Quit: theo-la-db) Aug 22 18:09:04 or both even Aug 22 18:09:42 i asked serverspace somewhere this week, just needs to get an answer. Aug 22 18:09:55 --> theo-la-db has joined #oceania Aug 22 18:10:05 pseudopunk - i didnt really look at code, just installed it, would it be hard to get a english translation for all the html pages going? Aug 22 18:10:28 andycat: it should be easy. Aug 22 18:10:35 I'll take a look at it this afternoon Aug 22 18:10:39 cool :) Aug 22 18:10:56 i mostly did the wirefetch part for ivdn. lexi/occam did what's in ivdn cvs Aug 22 18:11:11 * Waz adds action item :PseudoPunk to look into enlish translation for ivdn i18n Aug 22 18:12:53 i can get the latest ivdn from cvs ... if somebody needs an acct on the dev server just email me.. Aug 22 18:13:05 PP> a question, will oceania need it's own instance of the ivdn codbase running? Aug 22 18:13:12 yes Aug 22 18:13:20 i think and_ wants it working & fully translated by the TINA festy Aug 22 18:13:31 andycat: when's that ? Aug 22 18:14:02 pseudopunk : when what ? :) Aug 22 18:14:07 tina fest Aug 22 18:14:15 TIN is the end of SEPT Aug 22 18:14:20 oh Aug 22 18:14:25 sorry Aug 22 18:14:36 so, PseudoPunk can u explain a bit about how the servers interact? Aug 22 18:14:37 thru to early oct Aug 22 18:14:54 <-- theo-la-db has quit (Remote host closed the connection) Aug 22 18:15:33 pabs: no. Aug 22 18:15:58 occam is working on an xml/rpc thing that should do it. it's on codecoop & it's called indecs Aug 22 18:16:25 but i have no idea how it really works :-) Aug 22 18:16:38 PP> what does IVDN 'do' that v2v doesn't? Aug 22 18:17:42 or ngv for that matter Aug 22 18:19:29 --> spanna has joined #oceania Aug 22 18:19:42 ello ello Aug 22 18:19:45 sorry i'm a little late Aug 22 18:19:50 hi anna - we're just discussing ivdn atm Aug 22 18:19:56 cool\ Aug 22 18:20:00 Waz: don't really know what v2v & ngv do Aug 22 18:20:11 i'll track the action items if you like. Aug 22 18:20:11 [20:06] ok Aug 22 18:20:11 [20:06] you facilitating? Aug 22 18:20:11 [20:07] ahh, not really. i guess i can step in if things get outofhand Aug 22 18:20:11 [20:08] *** zl2tod sets mode +o for #oceania Waz Aug 22 18:20:11 <-- Waz has quit (Excess Flood) Aug 22 18:20:23 oopsie Aug 22 18:20:23 but it will mostly mirror to archive.org & others + doing p2p stuff Aug 22 18:21:18 hi pseudopunk are you working on ivdn? Aug 22 18:21:20 <-- claremarie has quit (Quit: Client exiting) Aug 22 18:21:24 it's sad lexi isn't here, he knows most of it Aug 22 18:21:45 spanna: a little, i did the wirefetch part (that will be used to have a global video wire/feed/search Aug 22 18:21:47 --> and_ has joined #oceania Aug 22 18:21:54 heyas, Aug 22 18:21:56 sorry am late Aug 22 18:22:14 hey and Aug 22 18:22:25 have you all stated yet? Aug 22 18:22:37 i don't see dave or warwick Aug 22 18:22:50 waz waz here Aug 22 18:23:04 have you started? Aug 22 18:23:08 i'm keeping notes Aug 22 18:23:15 yes, we are in ivdn atm Aug 22 18:23:17 can you send me pabs? Aug 22 18:23:37 or to list Aug 22 18:23:59 http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Local/OceaniaVideoMeeting1 Aug 22 18:24:37 PseudoPunk: is there a general overview of the architecture somewhere? Aug 22 18:25:14 ta pabs Aug 22 18:25:22 http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/ImcVideoDistributionNetwork#IVDN Aug 22 18:25:43 drop that # Aug 22 18:25:58 there's things noted there. but we really need docs for ivdn Aug 22 18:26:30 <-- finn has quit (Quit: leaving) Aug 22 18:27:05 --> Waz has joined #oceania Aug 22 18:27:22 http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/IVDNServerSetup Aug 22 18:27:23 hey waz Aug 22 18:27:25 sorry about that Aug 22 18:28:28 i'm just reading through emails to the oceania-video list to catch up Aug 22 18:28:56 so is the main thing we want to talk about implementatino of ivdn code on nomasters? Aug 22 18:29:03 and the rss catch stuff? Aug 22 18:30:08 i'm interested in discussing how we can get an ftp to nomasters that auto mirrors to archive going Aug 22 18:30:26 ok Aug 22 18:30:33 spanna: http://docs.indymedia.org/twiki/pub/Global/IVDNServerSetup/v2v-ivdn.png Aug 22 18:30:35 that seems to be the key, the rest of it is code that isn't too far from regular indysites, huh? Aug 22 18:30:37 ivdn will do that Aug 22 18:30:45 <-- zl2tod has quit (Ping timeout: 600 seconds) Aug 22 18:31:12 --> zl2tod has joined #oceania Aug 22 18:31:13 mmm, yeh i guess does that mean we can use it straight away? Aug 22 18:31:21 or does it need work for our purposes? Aug 22 18:31:32 can we simply point it at nomasters instead? Aug 22 18:31:56 maybe you can talk to archive spanna? Aug 22 18:32:23 i don't think that will be a problem, though to hear pseudopunks opinion? Aug 22 18:32:25 PseudoPunk: wanna add anything here? Aug 22 18:32:31 occam and mark talked to them, contact them ? Aug 22 18:32:51 from my conversations with them, they want the content Aug 22 18:32:59 they require meta-info + you can only upload content through cc licences Aug 22 18:33:33 can peeps forsee the cc being a problem of any kind? Aug 22 18:33:52 the meta-info we'll need in anycase Aug 22 18:33:59 only ion it being too liberal and not radical enough Aug 22 18:34:08 but i don't think it is a major restriction Aug 22 18:34:16 doesn't seem to hurt to put the meta-data in their format Aug 22 18:34:56 i think that most video-makers i know would not have a problem with creative commons Aug 22 18:35:37 for me the question is who is going to install code on nomasters and is it ready to go? Aug 22 18:36:40 some input from andy - does test site seem workable for us? Aug 22 18:37:38 andycat you here? Aug 22 18:39:00 mmmm... Aug 22 18:39:08 looks like no Aug 22 18:39:08 does ivdn crew feel like the code is ready to go? Aug 22 18:39:21 that there is just a server issue to be dealt with really? Aug 22 18:39:36 oceania could be a test for its workability Aug 22 18:39:41 spanna: you'll have to ask lexi. Aug 22 18:39:44 i have to go Aug 22 18:39:45 cu Aug 22 18:39:54 ok thanks for coming! Aug 22 18:40:01 --> gdm has joined #oceania Aug 22 18:40:17 i guess the other option is to use a different code Aug 22 18:40:24 say the v2v or ngv code Aug 22 18:40:27 ? Aug 22 18:40:33 it sounds like the ivdn crew don't have a server up and running at the mo? Aug 22 18:41:04 thats my understanding Aug 22 18:41:22 waz or pabs, have you looked much at the ivdn code? Aug 22 18:41:29 nope Aug 22 18:41:33 i wish i could make sense of these things.. Aug 22 18:41:36 no waz but oceania has access to nomasters server Aug 22 18:41:57 which should do the trick atleast for the beginning Aug 22 18:42:02 do you think the code is finished? Aug 22 18:42:09 and stable? Aug 22 18:42:14 can we poke about in the code thats up on the cat server now? Aug 22 18:42:18 all together now Aug 22 18:42:23 there was something up ... can't remember url ... didn't look finished last time I saw it Aug 22 18:42:38 url ? Aug 22 18:42:51 just looking for it on email Aug 22 18:42:55 ivdn.cat.org.au/en Aug 22 18:43:31 faster than lightning Aug 22 18:43:38 can someone else take notes for a bit - i gotta eat Aug 22 18:43:56 http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Local/OceaniaVideoMeeting1 Aug 22 18:44:04 hi Aug 22 18:44:05 --- gdm is now known as gdm-afk Aug 22 18:44:26 i was MIA for a bit sorry Aug 22 18:44:47 hiya andy... how far did you get with the config of the ivdn on cat.org? Aug 22 18:45:00 i can install ngv or v2v or both if youse like . Aug 22 18:45:04 to the end Aug 22 18:45:08 i supose Aug 22 18:45:14 i didnt test it that much tho Aug 22 18:45:35 any chance of us all having a look at it to discuss which bits do what Aug 22 18:45:43 or is there not much point in that..? Aug 22 18:45:56 poking about in the engine style Aug 22 18:46:40 spanna: not sure what u mean... Aug 22 18:46:53 the publish link has language issues Aug 22 18:47:32 yeah, the languages keep changing on different steps too =) Aug 22 18:47:48 translations can happen, i don't hthink that is the biggest worry Aug 22 18:48:04 does ivdn.cat.org.au have a ftp server running? Aug 22 18:48:07 what language is the code in? Aug 22 18:48:25 pls excuse all my dumb questions Aug 22 18:48:34 waz : yes, but maybe blocked by firewall Aug 22 18:48:41 spanna: php Aug 22 18:48:59 i can't get past step one... connect to the ftp server Aug 22 18:49:17 if its php then i might have a chance of understanding whats going on Aug 22 18:49:20 ah... have you tested the 'create ftp login' step? Aug 22 18:50:39 no i havent Aug 22 18:50:48 its probly blocked by firewall - wait there Aug 22 18:50:59 dave was happy to offer people accounts on nomasters to get it set up there i know Aug 22 18:51:00 cool. Aug 22 18:51:03 the ftp that is Aug 22 18:51:04 spanna: do u want an account on the dev server? Aug 22 18:51:20 yeh, that'd be snazzi Aug 22 18:52:06 i wonder if and, you and i could volunteer to work on the translations Aug 22 18:52:16 getting that bit right so its not so confusing Aug 22 18:52:27 i don't speak german Aug 22 18:52:43 don't matter - its all the same Aug 22 18:52:51 isn't there an italian version? Aug 22 18:52:53 ich bin ein idiot....? Aug 22 18:52:57 --> gdm-afk_ has joined #oceania Aug 22 18:53:23 umm, not sure Aug 22 18:53:25 one secx Aug 22 18:53:32 it starts in spanish then moves to german when you go to the create ftp login ? Aug 22 18:54:07 yeah i think at the moment all of it is in german apart from the rudimentry bits Aug 22 18:54:16 not even spanish, catalonian? Aug 22 18:54:52 you go to spanish upload it's in german Aug 22 18:54:52 well we could get in there and change the bits that we know at least Aug 22 18:55:04 like "neue uploads" Aug 22 18:55:12 we can ask help from the indymedia translation project Aug 22 18:55:16 that's what they are there for Aug 22 18:55:31 right, i don't know much about that, cool Aug 22 18:55:50 so we could just send the text in an email to them? Aug 22 18:55:56 can we do that now? Aug 22 18:56:00 http://translations.indymedia.org/ Aug 22 18:56:05 yep Aug 22 18:56:11 i guess so Aug 22 18:56:13 i've got to wonder why use FTP instead of a multipart HTTP POST? Aug 22 18:56:24 could we have both? Aug 22 18:56:31 that seems like a hell of alot of work for no good reason Aug 22 18:57:00 <-- gdm-afk has quit (Ping timeout: 600 seconds) Aug 22 18:57:09 is there problems with resuming uploads or is that sorted? Aug 22 18:57:10 less bandwidth iirc. and resumable if your connection dies Aug 22 18:57:19 sorry, resuming with http i mean Aug 22 18:57:31 * shayne [offtopic] has new version of organic helicopters almost finished. Aug 22 18:57:55 fair enough Aug 22 18:58:02 waz: http post isnt as good as ftp for large files.. Aug 22 18:58:16 archive offers both Aug 22 18:58:25 or did i just make that up? Aug 22 18:58:31 i'll check ;) Aug 22 18:59:25 i can try and find ways to get the german translated, will contact translation team Aug 22 18:59:32 http vs ftp upload: http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum88/3574.htm Aug 22 18:59:37 if we are def. going with ivdn code that is Aug 22 18:59:52 * shayne notes gz compression can work both ways with httpp, but I've never seen it im,plemented Aug 22 19:00:00 andycat, are you able to do an ftp connection of localhot on that box or somthing to see if those FTP accounts are being created? Aug 22 19:00:02 (otr its entirely backgorunded if it is) Aug 22 19:00:51 archive only offers ftp, though at one stage i'm sure it was doing web uploads.. Aug 22 19:00:52 shayne: most clients and web servers have it implemented transparently.. Aug 22 19:01:21 ah ok. Aug 22 19:01:23 waz: im doing that now Aug 22 19:01:32 as in uploads too? Aug 22 19:01:44 yes Aug 22 19:03:20 v2v and ngv both only offer ftp uploads Aug 22 19:03:44 spanna: are the v2v/ngv codebases available? Aug 22 19:03:53 i think ftp only is self-limiting Aug 22 19:04:04 pabs: they are open source Aug 22 19:04:11 pabs: eeek, i don't know.. and, andy? Aug 22 19:04:28 as far as i know yes, free software and all Aug 22 19:04:45 can we start with ftp and tack on a web-upload form later? Aug 22 19:04:54 i dont know either Aug 22 19:05:09 mind you, having web uploads would help video makerz Aug 22 19:05:16 who might be scared of ftp, some of 'em Aug 22 19:05:26 i don't see any grab code here link on v2v Aug 22 19:05:29 could help catch more users Aug 22 19:05:42 http://perth.indymedia.org/~shayne/organichelicopters.ogg <-- latest version::critiques pls Aug 22 19:05:45 me neither, am looking too pabs Aug 22 19:05:48 anyone got the cvs details for ivdn? Aug 22 19:05:56 they are very big on free software so i'm sure it could be gotten Aug 22 19:06:08 windows users will be fine with ftp anna - internet explorer does uploads fine Aug 22 19:06:09 so36 crew if anyone know them Aug 22 19:06:22 Waz: codecoop.org/projects/ivdn Aug 22 19:09:01 --> doll has joined #oceania Aug 22 19:09:16 hia doll Aug 22 19:09:34 pabs: hiya pabs, and all..sorry i am late Aug 22 19:10:10 pabs: oh, i didn't know that Aug 22 19:10:22 ok, back for 10min. or so Aug 22 19:11:11 PP> is the ivdn bittorrent module complete? Aug 22 19:11:57 (the ivdn/bittorrent directory looks scarce on code Aug 22 19:12:32 i presume mod_bt will be used for that bit Aug 22 19:12:40 Waz: i think lexi is going for mldonkey atm Aug 22 19:12:46 but you should catch him asap Aug 22 19:12:58 he's the main coder atm, i lack way too much time :-( Aug 22 19:13:06 ok the ftp server is working with the created codes from the page Aug 22 19:13:08 [andy@colourful andy]$ ncftp -u ivdn-44s5040 -p ivdn-44s5040 ivdn.cat.org.au Aug 22 19:13:08 NcFTP 3.1.3 (Mar 27, 2002) by Mike Gleason (ncftp ncftp com). Aug 22 19:13:09 Connecting to 203.57.122.38... Aug 22 19:13:09 Aug 22 19:13:09 *************************************************** Aug 22 19:13:10 * (((i))) Indymedia Video Distribution Network * Aug 22 19:13:12 * Upload Server * Aug 22 19:13:14 *************************************************** Aug 22 19:13:16 * * Aug 22 19:13:18 * Please login with your supplied upload-key as * Aug 22 19:13:20 * username and password * Aug 22 19:13:22 * * Aug 22 19:13:24 *************************************************** Aug 22 19:13:26 Aug 22 19:13:28 Logging in... Aug 22 19:13:30 *************************************************** Aug 22 19:13:33 * * Aug 22 19:13:34 * Welcome. * Aug 22 19:13:36 * Please upload your videofile(s) here * Aug 22 19:13:42 * * Aug 22 19:13:44 *************************************************** Aug 22 19:13:46 Login successful. Aug 22 19:13:48 Permission denied. Aug 22 19:13:50 Logged in to ivdn.cat.org.au. Aug 22 19:13:52 ncftp / > Aug 22 19:13:54 thats pretty cute Aug 22 19:13:56 vsftpd is setup to use PAM to auth against the mysql table Aug 22 19:14:11 nice Aug 22 19:14:16 which the php page sets up with a row in the mysql table when u ask for a login Aug 22 19:14:39 anybody need to browse mysql - http://tacwols.cat.org.au/phpmyadmin Aug 22 19:14:43 ask for mysql login.. Aug 22 19:15:21 oh, you can even run the mysql on another server, that's tested and it worked Aug 22 19:15:38 yeah Aug 22 19:16:19 what does video hochladen Aug 22 19:16:21 upload überprüfen mean ? Aug 22 19:16:39 don't know :-) Aug 22 19:16:42 i don't speak german Aug 22 19:16:50 but i'll find out Aug 22 19:16:55 psuedopunk: have ivdn crew organised translation at all? Aug 22 19:17:00 and_: not yet Aug 22 19:17:07 i'll start it up this afternoon Aug 22 19:17:15 have to go again now (for half an hour or so) Aug 22 19:17:19 ok, you speak german? Aug 22 19:17:26 i don't speak german Aug 22 19:18:25 andy: hochladen= high-load? (google) Aug 22 19:19:00 i'm guessing überprüfen means file or folder Aug 22 19:19:04 Uberprüfen= examine Aug 22 19:19:07 google again Aug 22 19:19:33 overview Aug 22 19:21:25 video highlands upload collators according to intertran Aug 22 19:23:25 --- gdm-afk_ is now known as gdm-afk Aug 22 19:23:46 so where do we go from here? Aug 22 19:24:08 fuck around with the agenda here: http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Local/OceaniaVideoMeeting1 Aug 22 19:25:18 so people are going to contiue hacking tbe ivdn code Aug 22 19:25:26 are we done with taling about that then? Aug 22 19:25:34 or what steps do we need to take Aug 22 19:25:35 ? Aug 22 19:25:52 translations, and continued testing Aug 22 19:25:58 is it realistic to think that it might be working in 5 weeks? Aug 22 19:25:59 and, organise accounts with dave? Aug 22 19:26:16 you want to organise accoutns with dave anna? Aug 22 19:26:48 i can send him an email Aug 22 19:26:55 ok Aug 22 19:27:03 and we are def going with ivdn code? Aug 22 19:27:33 what r the other options and_ ? Aug 22 19:27:47 ngv or v2v i guess Aug 22 19:28:02 but i think linking it all in with indy stuff going on is good Aug 22 19:28:04 do u know they are open source? Aug 22 19:28:14 and i don't want to opena can of worms Aug 22 19:28:17 they are open source Aug 22 19:28:24 pabs found link to v2v code Aug 22 19:28:25 i had a very quick look - couldnt see any download source code option Aug 22 19:28:35 i can't find for ngv but could email Aug 22 19:28:47 URL? Aug 22 19:28:50 throw me a url to a .tar.gz file or cvs repos and we can have a test site Aug 22 19:28:51 but if ivdn serves our purposes then i think it's fine Aug 22 19:28:51 (have i jumped into the middle of a meeting..?) Aug 22 19:29:04 pabs: u want to install v2v ? Aug 22 19:29:15 codecoop.org/projects/ivdn Aug 22 19:29:32 oh, the v2v code is in ivdn? Aug 22 19:29:37 ivdn is already installed :) Aug 22 19:29:49 oh, oops, Aug 22 19:29:55 i am stupid Aug 22 19:29:56 andycat: nah, just want an url for the logs Aug 22 19:29:57 slap me Aug 22 19:30:05 * and_ slaps himself Aug 22 19:30:12 * pabs slaps and_ with a large troll Aug 22 19:30:24 oi - put me down Aug 22 19:30:32 * halo giggles Aug 22 19:30:33 hehehe Aug 22 19:30:55 * andycat whips and_ Aug 22 19:31:07 pabs: logs ? huh Aug 22 19:31:09 ow!! stop it Aug 22 19:31:27 andycat: irc meeting logs Aug 22 19:31:44 to be uploaded to http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Local/OceaniaVideoMeeting1 when we are done Aug 22 19:33:02 pabs: somebody said u knew a url to the v2v source ? Aug 22 19:33:16 they lied Aug 22 19:33:23 hah Aug 22 19:33:31 googling now tho Aug 22 19:34:07 oooh, hmm http://www.indypeer.org/ Aug 22 19:34:11 ok, back Aug 22 19:34:19 there are other things on the agenda, and i cant stay for every but im really only involved in site setups Aug 22 19:34:29 for ivdn, possibly v2v etc Aug 22 19:38:07 do people think it's possibloe to have something functioning by late sept? Aug 22 19:38:29 looks like the ivdn is built on top of the v2v source Aug 22 19:38:42 http://v2v.cc/rss/v2v.rdf Aug 22 19:39:41 damn, php4-pear isn't installable :-( Aug 22 19:41:00 so whats next agenda item? Aug 22 19:41:15 and_ possibly, isnt content more important (ie the rest of the agenda hint hint :) Aug 22 19:42:14 there is content out there and there will be stuffed compressed for the newsreal, as long as there is a place to put it we can upload Aug 22 19:42:24 ok, so we moving on then? Aug 22 19:43:04 * Waz agrees Aug 22 19:44:06 do we wanna fo broadcatching whilst we are on tech stuff? Aug 22 19:44:11 or we wanna break from that? Aug 22 19:44:41 to get broadcatching working we'll need to implement a 2.0 rss feed Aug 22 19:44:59 looks like the ivdn code is still using v2v's RDF (v1) Aug 22 19:45:10 we can talk more about that another time Aug 22 19:46:21 i'd think that would be very easy tho Aug 22 19:46:36 so, lets move on Aug 22 19:46:36 * zl2tod floats the idea of a jukebox style thing Aug 22 19:46:47 yeah i agree Aug 22 19:46:52 onwards Aug 22 19:48:34 where?..... Aug 22 19:48:38 newsreal> Aug 22 19:48:39 ? Aug 22 19:49:14 yup yup Aug 22 19:49:39 spanna? Aug 22 19:49:50 i poked scott about getting a dv tape to yall by 3 sept, he sez its doable Aug 22 19:50:08 whats it about pabs? Aug 22 19:50:20 the windarling mine in wa Aug 22 19:50:21 ok, reboot Aug 22 19:50:44 also, and_ tell wowi to get footage from tuarts stuff to melbs Aug 22 19:51:20 ok Aug 22 19:52:00 <-- PseudoPunk has quit (Quit: leaving) Aug 22 19:52:23 --- andycat is now known as andycat_afk Aug 22 19:53:13 well everyone should tell peopple in their state to get tapes in asap Aug 22 19:53:32 anyone esle have stuff to add> Aug 22 19:53:34 ? Aug 22 19:53:45 if anna has gone awol not sure what else to chat about with it Aug 22 19:53:52 anyone got issues? Aug 22 19:53:58 when adelaide gets nline i;ll put an article there, and make sum flyers for videomaker hangouts Aug 22 19:55:05 doll: can the posters go on the wiki for us to download and print out elsewhere ? :)) Aug 22 19:55:20 * andycat_afk reall away now.. Aug 22 19:55:38 andycat: yup..i waz thinken that today Aug 22 19:57:55 http://perth.indymedia.org/index.php?action=newswire&parentview=5221 Aug 22 19:58:09 ^^^ Thats now 8 songs I've put out there.... Aug 22 19:58:15 * shayne should do a cd. Aug 22 19:59:20 ok, so shall we skip the newsreal then Aug 22 19:59:22 <-- spanna has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.35 [Mozilla rv:1.5/20031007]) Aug 22 19:59:37 i don't know what else there is to do on it if spanna is not here Aug 22 19:59:46 also tassie newsreal hiedi is not here so we can't do that Aug 22 19:59:52 unless peple have comments Aug 22 20:00:03 --> spanna has joined #oceania Aug 22 20:00:11 one thing.... Aug 22 20:00:25 oops my irc client just died, sorry Aug 22 20:00:29 mebbe anorher metg can be held in a coupla weeks for newsreal/tazzie Aug 22 20:00:32 yay Aug 22 20:00:34 or mebbe i killed it Aug 22 20:01:33 spanna: anything to say about newsreal2? Aug 22 20:01:50 pabs: its gonna be rrrad Aug 22 20:01:53 :) Aug 22 20:01:57 =) Aug 22 20:02:03 well, tim is compiling it again Aug 22 20:02:09 it worked well that way last time Aug 22 20:02:14 :) what about status etc? Aug 22 20:02:18 i'm having a meeting with him this week to see how its going Aug 22 20:02:36 we're just finding pieces at the moment Aug 22 20:02:49 and i'm about to get started with some intro motion graphix Aug 22 20:02:53 to tie it together Aug 22 20:03:01 spanna: ppl shd send u pieces on mini dv, right? Aug 22 20:03:13 doll: thats right Aug 22 20:03:19 if possible Aug 22 20:03:22 much better for us Aug 22 20:03:32 can yo get tim to post notes to the video list? Aug 22 20:03:33 have you got something for us, mebbe? Aug 22 20:03:42 yeh, i'll talk to tim Aug 22 20:03:45 possible for dv's 2 be returned, or 2 mucvh hassle? Aug 22 20:04:05 we can return them no worries, as there won't be masses of pieces Aug 22 20:04:10 also spanna can you send me graphics stuff as soon as you have them and i'll make cd cover Aug 22 20:04:14 <-- shayne has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Aug 22 20:04:21 what's the plan for making up CDs / DVDs for distribution? Aug 22 20:04:38 we're waiting on some news about that Aug 22 20:04:48 there might be an opportunity to get cheap dvd replication Aug 22 20:04:54 in which case we'd go for that Aug 22 20:05:01 but it depends on another project Aug 22 20:05:09 * doll doll will send a dvtape, with notyes of which pieces mite suit the newsreal sorta oblique slant on news/workld events Aug 22 20:05:23 thanx doll! :) Aug 22 20:05:35 to spacestation po box on oceania site is best Aug 22 20:05:36 i was talking to andycat, he's got a contact that can make up CDs with printing at the cost of the blanks only =) Aug 22 20:05:56 two weeks lead time though Aug 22 20:06:02 nu wuzzas! Aug 22 20:06:17 cool, we should do some research Aug 22 20:06:26 we'd want full-colour disc printing again i think Aug 22 20:06:31 it looks snazzi that way Aug 22 20:06:34 nice! Aug 22 20:06:48 oh, anyone here a mac user? Aug 22 20:06:54 who has tried out the newsreal? Aug 22 20:06:58 negatory Aug 22 20:07:04 --> PseudoPunk has joined #oceania Aug 22 20:07:06 pc Aug 22 20:07:07 i hear peeps have trubble with vcd playing Aug 22 20:07:10 who use macs Aug 22 20:07:20 thats not a newsreal issue, its a vcd issue Aug 22 20:07:29 i know its possible for mac users to sort out Aug 22 20:07:33 but i'd like to help em Aug 22 20:08:00 does the vcd play on 9, and OSX? Aug 22 20:08:06 try vlc...http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ Aug 22 20:08:14 yeh vlc Aug 22 20:08:18 we supplied it with newsreal Aug 22 20:08:29 there is no version for os9 Aug 22 20:08:44 i'm not sure about os9 Aug 22 20:08:59 and apparently you have to use os 10.3 to use vcd Aug 22 20:09:02 or apply a patch Aug 22 20:09:16 to versions os X other Aug 22 20:09:23 so the next vcd nees sum tech instructions? Aug 22 20:09:51 yes. not having a mac, someone who does would be great for testing and troubleshooting Aug 22 20:10:01 no probs with linux or pc as far as i can tell Aug 22 20:10:04 --> shayne has joined #oceania Aug 22 20:10:18 and i've had no feedback about dvd players really, except that it works in mine! Aug 22 20:10:28 and i know it works in 95% of dvd players Aug 22 20:10:36 standalone dvd players that is Aug 22 20:10:56 yay Aug 22 20:11:01 spanna, theres an indy mac kid here in the laid, so u can always send a test copy down here and il get it 2 him, if u cant filnd melbz ppeps Aug 22 20:11:11 yeh, that'd be tops Aug 22 20:11:21 you couldn't burn one for him could ya? Aug 22 20:11:25 if you've got a copy.. Aug 22 20:11:47 yeah! i havent unpacked my bag yet from the melbz gathereing..ill get it 2 him Aug 22 20:12:40 cool, thanx luv Aug 22 20:12:48 gotta go me think Aug 22 20:12:53 no problem Aug 22 20:13:09 * doll wave and_ Aug 22 20:13:15 cya dude Aug 22 20:13:33 <-- and_ has left #oceania (Leaving) Aug 22 20:14:00 was there any other things raised on the list that we should natter about? Aug 22 20:14:58 i think that's about everything =) Aug 22 20:15:20 ah, everyone take pics of urban art in yer area Aug 22 20:15:26 i'll post to the list as soon as i hear from dave about accounts Aug 22 20:15:27 and footage of people making it Aug 22 20:15:31 * doll has been Aug 22 20:15:34 coolies Aug 22 20:15:36 hows the graff movie going? Aug 22 20:15:44 slow n steady Aug 22 20:15:53 <-- halo has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Aug 22 20:15:55 mmm, smooth! Aug 22 20:16:02 pabs, the only action item i have is for PsedoPunk to get back to us about the i18n Aug 22 20:16:03 from the wiki it seems like pieces r being gathered Aug 22 20:16:22 elist here: http://lists.perthimc.asn.au/listinfo/urbanart Aug 22 20:16:29 doll: yep Aug 22 20:16:49 pabs: can u post that list addie on the urbanart page if its not there already?? Aug 22 20:17:02 it is there now Aug 22 20:17:07 oops..juys one question mark was intended Aug 22 20:17:11 k Aug 22 20:17:14 and on the oceania video page too Aug 22 20:17:31 * doll looken Aug 22 20:18:41 * doll cant see on the oceania vid page Aug 22 20:19:03 UrbanCreativityAroundOceania [ email list ] Aug 22 20:19:11 under Other oceania projects/tools Aug 22 20:19:43 good chatting with you guys... i'm off Aug 22 20:19:54 o..i was looking on oceania indymedia org Aug 22 20:19:58 cya waz Aug 22 20:20:07 laterz Waz Aug 22 20:20:59 if thats it then i'll post the logs. anyone have anything else to say? Aug 22 20:21:18 cya waz! Aug 22 20:21:31 nah, sweet dreams is all